you know, of course, we'd like our workers to be better educated. we'd like lots of stuff to be better, but that was true in 2007, too. there's no sign that that accounts for this dramatic deterioration. this is just plain not enough spending. >> but i think we can begin to address our entitlement problem without putting on the brakes. if we don't, what worries me about what paul krugman and others are creming, e i recomme sandys, future wars, bond markets that we've put ourselves in a vulnerable position. that seems to me to be a dangerous thing that you're recommending. >> we've actually seen that in practice, i can say, look, if i were -- if i could ideally, i'd say let's have a plan to reduce the budget deficit five years out, ten years out from now while at the same time doing stimulus for the economy, washington doesn't work that way. if you spend a lot of your time talking about, well, the debt and entitlements are the big problem, the message that -- actually what we need to do right now is promote jobs gets lost. and in fact, we've spent th